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keith5

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 3:53 am
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Hi,

I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

Keith

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Matt Langenfeld2

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 5:00 am
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1.5 gallons should be plenty

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keith wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
 > do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.
 >
 > Keith<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 9:37 am
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keith <anything.DeleteThis@something.com> wrote in message news:<ctjl905iasf70oqv075ugsda8q6usf4di0.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
 > Hi,
 >
 > I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
 > do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.
 >
 > Keith

It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
don't really know the answer;)
Scotty<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri May 07, 2004 11:35 pm
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Thank you for your help

Keith

On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, skcusemans.DeleteThis@eudoramail.com (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

 >keith <anything.DeleteThis@something.com> wrote in message news:<ctjl905iasf70oqv075ugsda8q6usf4di0.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
  >> Hi,
  >>
  >> I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
  >> do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.
  >>
  >> Keith
 >
 >It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
 >probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
 >gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
 >of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
 >don't really know the answer;)
 >Scotty<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Rick Tyler1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 2:37 am
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 >On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, skcusemans.RemoveThis@eudoramail.com (Backyard
 >Renegade) wrote:
 >
  >>keith <anything.RemoveThis@something.com> wrote in message news:<ctjl905iasf70oqv075ugsda8q6usf4di0.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
   >>> I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
   >>> do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.
  >>
  >>It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
  >>probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
  >>gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
  >>of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
  >>don't really know the answer;)

Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.

Have fun!

- Rick Tyler
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depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat May 08, 2004 10:13 am
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Rick Tyler <rhtyler.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ruvo90h3jlofstl6452dptu71f2qh2meta.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
  > >On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, skcusemans.RemoveThis@eudoramail.com (Backyard
  > >Renegade) wrote:
  > >
   > >>keith <anything.RemoveThis@something.com> wrote in message news:<ctjl905iasf70oqv075ugsda8q6usf4di0.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
   > >>> I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
   > >>> do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.
   > >>
   > >>It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
   > >>probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
   > >>gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
   > >>of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
   > >>don't really know the answer;)
 >
 > Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
 > a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
 > 1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.
 >
 > Have fun!
 >
 > - Rick Tyler

You are correct, sometimes I forget. I guess with the sail rig and
such, you could use that much. Probably best for a newbie to listen to
Matt, and Rick, and the designer.
Scotty<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 10:36 am
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Rick Tyler <rhtyler.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ruvo90h3jlofstl6452dptu71f2qh2meta.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
  > >On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, skcusemans.DeleteThis@eudoramail.com (Backyard
  > >Renegade) wrote:
  > >
   > >>keith <anything.DeleteThis@something.com> wrote in message news:<ctjl905iasf70oqv075ugsda8q6usf4di0.DeleteThis@4ax.com>...
   > >>> I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
   > >>> do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.
   > >>
   > >>It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
   > >>probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
   > >>gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
   > >>of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
   > >>don't really know the answer;)
 >
 > Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
 > a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
 > 1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.
 >
 > Have fun!
 >
 > - Rick Tyler


My dad always says I only open my mouth to change feet! Anyway, since
I opened my mouth I should add this.
One of the biggest problems a newbie has is trusting this flimsy 6mm
and thin battens, especially during the initial building process
before the project takes it's structure. This usually results in the
builder putting in larger/heavier fillets and using more glue than the
origional plan calls for. Remember, the designer has designed a vessel
that will suit the need when completed, many of these smaller boats,
especially s+t boats do not get structure until very late in the build
when the gunnels, quarterknees, keel, seats and such get finalized.
Before that, these boats are just scarey, like working with a big
piece of newspaper, often I joke with customers, "you don't want to
see your boat until it's done". I have also seen many think, 6mm may
be good, but I will use 9mm... Hummmmm? If you don't trust the
designer or the plan, you are building the wrong boat, Anyway, my
point is, trust the designer if he says 3/8" filletts, don't make em'
heavy.
Another mistake newbies make while we are at it is trying to make a
boat look and act like a boat, before it is a boat. What I mean here
is getting ahead of yourself can cost you time and material. To be
more to the point what I am talking about here is sanding and
finishing parts before their time. Any part that will be difficult to
reach after construction can be sanded ahead of time, but I never sand
anything until I am ready to finish it. Why? Easy. I don't want to
sand twice, or sand through the laminates if using plywood cause you
will nick it again before the end of the build and have to sand it
again. This can result in extra work, and of course if you nick
something that is already sanded to shape, you will have to take it
down further to get the nick out you just made turning the hull or
dropping a tool or paint! Leave a little extra on pieces when possible
until it it time to make it look like a boat.
Anyway, I hope I have redeemed myself for the assumption that a newbie
will be as kind to a pot of goo as I.
Later, Scotty from............ Ahhhh, still can't do it... Working on
three beautiful boats now, hoping to have a nice summer. Been catching
some good fish so far too. Later.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 2:56 pm
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Thanks,

Sme valuable advice from all of you. I can't wait to get started.

Keith

On 10 May 2004 07:36:40 -0700, skcusemans.TakeThisOut@eudoramail.com (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

 >Rick Tyler <rhtyler.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ruvo90h3jlofstl6452dptu71f2qh2meta.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
   >> >On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, skcusemans.TakeThisOut@eudoramail.com (Backyard
   >> >Renegade) wrote:
   >> >
   >> >>keith <anything.TakeThisOut@something.com> wrote in message news:<ctjl905iasf70oqv075ugsda8q6usf4di0.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>...
   >> >>> I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
   >> >>> do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.
   >> >>
   >> >>It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
   >> >>probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
   >> >>gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
   >> >>of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
   >> >>don't really know the answer;)
  >>
  >> Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
  >> a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
  >> 1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.
  >>
  >> Have fun!
  >>
  >> - Rick Tyler
 >
 >
 >My dad always says I only open my mouth to change feet! Anyway, since
 >I opened my mouth I should add this.
 >One of the biggest problems a newbie has is trusting this flimsy 6mm
 >and thin battens, especially during the initial building process
 >before the project takes it's structure. This usually results in the
 >builder putting in larger/heavier fillets and using more glue than the
 >origional plan calls for. Remember, the designer has designed a vessel
 >that will suit the need when completed, many of these smaller boats,
 >especially s+t boats do not get structure until very late in the build
 >when the gunnels, quarterknees, keel, seats and such get finalized.
 >Before that, these boats are just scarey, like working with a big
 >piece of newspaper, often I joke with customers, "you don't want to
 >see your boat until it's done". I have also seen many think, 6mm may
 >be good, but I will use 9mm... Hummmmm? If you don't trust the
 >designer or the plan, you are building the wrong boat, Anyway, my
 >point is, trust the designer if he says 3/8" filletts, don't make em'
 >heavy.
 >Another mistake newbies make while we are at it is trying to make a
 >boat look and act like a boat, before it is a boat. What I mean here
 >is getting ahead of yourself can cost you time and material. To be
 >more to the point what I am talking about here is sanding and
 >finishing parts before their time. Any part that will be difficult to
 >reach after construction can be sanded ahead of time, but I never sand
 >anything until I am ready to finish it. Why? Easy. I don't want to
 >sand twice, or sand through the laminates if using plywood cause you
 >will nick it again before the end of the build and have to sand it
 >again. This can result in extra work, and of course if you nick
 >something that is already sanded to shape, you will have to take it
 >down further to get the nick out you just made turning the hull or
 >dropping a tool or paint! Leave a little extra on pieces when possible
 >until it it time to make it look like a boat.
 >Anyway, I hope I have redeemed myself for the assumption that a newbie
 >will be as kind to a pot of goo as I.
 >Later, Scotty from............ Ahhhh, still can't do it... Working on
 >three beautiful boats now, hoping to have a nice summer. Been catching
 >some good fish so far too. Later.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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