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Since: Aug 12, 2003 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:17 am
Post subject: Cylinder Index - big boys with toys Archived from groups: rec>boats>paddle, others (more info?)
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My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
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Since: Oct 03, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:17 am
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"Marsh Jones" <marshjones DeleteThis @removethisserver.attbi.com> wrote in message
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| My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
| - how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
| ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
| While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
| about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
| a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
| frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
| Memorable counts?
The cylinder index is the creation The Joe Souchery Radio Show
http://www.garagelogic.com/ica.htm
My first thoughts about a 'people powered' index are:
-it needs to be broader than Carbon.
-that if taken beyond 'propulsive devices'(....skis, bike wheels, skates,
running shoes, paddles, snowshoes, etc) it would get complex, inflated, and
meaningless
Of course, my opinion has nothing to do with the fact that I don't golf, and
my bikes are steel, and Ti.
.....so perhaps start by adding up bike wheels, skates(ice/ inline; each pair
equal 2), same for paddles, footwear: 2pts/pair, skis- ....(perhaps skis
should be 1point/pair, and boots 1pt/pr)....divide the total by 2(or not)
I could do well at this as I am inclined not to throw anything out.
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Since: Jul 22, 2003 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:17 am
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Hey, that's not fair! (my bike is titanium)
How about a wheel index - you can count single ski as a wheel, so is
pole.
Let's see...
My road bike, my wife's bike, tandem, my son's bike (I bought it, but
no longer
own it though), my skates, wife's skates (all 5 wheel), my rollerski
and poles,
snow ski + poles, my wife's ski + poles, tandem kayak with paddles
(yes, that's a wheel too)-2 paddles, power waking poles -1 pair,
mountain bike.
Hmmm.. that is 50 - still a long way to go.
Let's see.. old skates -8, my computer chair - 5 wheels
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Since: Jul 27, 2003 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:39 am
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On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:17:31 GMT, Marsh Jones
<marshjones RemoveThis @removethisserver.attbi.com> wrote:
>My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
>- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
>ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
>While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
>about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
>a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
>frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
>Memorable counts?
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8 graphite fly rods
6 pairs of ski poles
4 pairs of skis
What are "golf clubs"?
g.c.
Whose paddles are built from wood, canoe from royalex, fliy lines from plastic-
all of which contain carbon mixed witha little hydrogen and oxygen.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Cylinder Index - big boys with toys |
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Since: Oct 04, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 3:28 am
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Sticks of carbon for me = 0 (but I am glad you let me read and post here
anyway)
Propulsive devices 6 misc and maybe 12 pr skis (only 2 decent ones though),
the rest are for rocks or to give to newbies.
gr
"Marsh Jones" <marshjones.RemoveThis@removethisserver.attbi.com> wrote in message
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> My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
> - how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
> ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
> While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
> about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
> a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
> frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
> Memorable counts?
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Since: Jul 22, 2003 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 9:51 am
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Since: Oct 04, 2003 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 12:57 pm
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Maybe it should be clothing based.
How many articles of clothing do you own made from Lycra, Spandex,
Gore-Tex, Neoprene, Polypropylene.
In fact, if you include the correct fabrics, you could take this index
way beyond sports.....
Marsh Jones <marshjones.DeleteThis@removethisserver.attbi.com> wrote in message news:<%zmfb.488288$Oz4.332119@rwcrnsc54>...
> My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
> - how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
> ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
> While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
> about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
> a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
> frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
> Memorable counts?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Cylinder Index - big boys with toys |
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Since: Jul 17, 2003 Posts: 29
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:58 pm
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IC cylinders:
59 (car, truck, 2 motorcycles, lawn tractor, 2 outboards, 2 weed-whackers,
chainsaw, generator, and 24 R/C airplane engines)
Carbon sticks: 74
8 fly rods
48 arrows
12 golf clubs
5 R/C airplane pushrods and wing spars
1 Bell NorthWind
Good paddling,
Bob Scott
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Since: Aug 15, 2003 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 8:48 pm
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In article <%zmfb.488288$Oz4.332119@rwcrnsc54>, Marsh Jones
<marshjones.DeleteThis@removethisserver.attbi.com> writes:
>My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
>- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
>ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
>While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
>about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
>a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
>frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
>Memorable counts?
Infernal Combustion Engines: I hate 'em with a passion. They tempt you with
power, give you the illusion of being in control, and after you finally begin
to trust them, they will fail when you need them the most. How else to explain
the number of fatalities from cars that stall on Railroad tracks?
A couple of years back I bought a pontoon boat to keep at the family cabin.
The boat was fine, but sadly, I found myself in possession of the one thing I
had ranted against for the last 30 years - an outboard motor. More evidence
that life has a really cruel sense of humor. Rarely say never. ( In my
defense, I am considering adding a sail to the pontoon.)
I have always favored human powered craft. Their saving grace is that you if
you can get yourself in somewhere, you can probably get yourself out. Judgement
is clearest when not influenced by gasoline vapor.
Anyone who owns one watercraft has at least one more - or a picture of their
next one circled in a catalog somewhere. As for the Carbon Stick Index - I
have 3. A pair of composite oars and my kayak paddle. My Watercraft Index is
reasonable: 1 raft, 3 IK's, one canoe (my wife's), one paddle boat, and, of
course, the pontoon. But I do have a stack of catalogs with pictures circled.
Next addition is my own personal tripping canoe.
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Blakely LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA.
RBP Clique member # 86.
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Since: Sep 20, 2003 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:44 am
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Cylinders
23 (car, car, car, van, lawn mower)
Carbon 61
4 fly rods
24 golf clubs
5 kites
2-2pieces paddles
61/23 = almost 3 to 1
"Bob" <desmobob.RemoveThis@capital.net> wrote in message
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> IC cylinders:
> 59 (car, truck, 2 motorcycles, lawn tractor, 2 outboards, 2 weed-whackers,
> chainsaw, generator, and 24 R/C airplane engines)
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> Carbon sticks: 74
> 8 fly rods
> 48 arrows
> 12 golf clubs
> 5 R/C airplane pushrods and wing spars
> 1 Bell NorthWind
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> Good paddling,
> Bob Scott
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Since: Oct 09, 2003 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:41 pm
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Better yet, let's admire the person with the LOWEST cylinder index.
p.s. I'd hazard a bet that your bosses waist index is also a bit
larger than yours
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 22:17:31 GMT, Marsh Jones
<marshjones.RemoveThis@removethisserver.attbi.com> wrote:
>My boss (a confirmed motorhead) brought up Cylinder Index the other day
>- how many internal combustion cylinders you own, counting lawn mowers,
>ATVs, cars, boats, etc.
>While I definitely yield to him (104 vs. 9), it did get me thinking
>about an equivalent in silent, people powered sports. I'd propose maybe
>a carbon index - how many sticks of carbon you own, including bike
>frames, ski poles, paddles, maybe even golf clubs. Any thoughts?
>Memorable counts?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Cylinder Index - big boys with toys |
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Since: Jun 26, 2003 Posts: 86
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 9:52 am
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"Edward Dike, III" <edd3remove_removes RemoveThis @qwestion.net> typed:
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> ....so perhaps start by adding up bike wheels, skates(ice/ inline; each pair
> equal 2), same for paddles, footwear: 2pts/pair, skis- ....(perhaps skis
> should be 1point/pair, and boots 1pt/pr)....divide the total by 2(or not)
> I could do well at this as I am inclined not to throw anything out.
> ED3
Yuh, two bicycles, one pair of skiis, and three pairs of hiking boots
would add up OK, but I'd do marginally better counting boats at two
points each than at counting paddles. But what is a climber gonna
count? Harnesses?
However it's done, I will proudly rank higher on this index than on
the cylinder index (10; a V-twin motorcycle and a V-8 van). To my
mind, motors are for the road (yeh, the motorbike's almost as much fun
as boating, and I've got nothing against sportscars, on pavement), but
"powersports" is an oxymoron, and 99% of jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles,
and SUVs should be crushed for scrap.
A cartoon show, King of something, did an episode mocking the
absurdity of huge lawn-tractors.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:58 pm
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> and 99% of jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles,
> and SUVs should be crushed for scrap.
Richard,
Hm. Interesting, I have 60% the cylinders in my life that you do, but my
SUV should be crushed for scrap while your van and Motorcycle go free?
I do Pretty well, between my gf and I we have 5 boats, 3 bicycles, 1
snowboard, a pile of climbing gear, plus rollerblades and running gear. And
bodyboards. Oh, and Scuba gear.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:58 pm
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"Geoff Jennings" <geoff.RemoveThis@texaskilonewton.com> typed:
> > and 99% of jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles,
> > and SUVs should be crushed for scrap.
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> Richard,
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> Hm. Interesting, I have 60% the cylinders in my life that you do, but my
> SUV should be crushed for scrap while your van and Motorcycle go free?
Context, context! The context was "off-road"! (^BD (Notice the cute
way my little smiley face is wearing his helmet? I'm not sure if it's
his motorcyle helmet or his Gratful Heads, though.)
Jetskis, ATVs, snowmobiles, and SUVs are designed to be used off the
road, where they can destroy the land that has not already bin paved
over. My van, my motorbike, sedans, minivans and station-wagons,
sportscars, trucks and semi-trailers are designed for the road, and my
van and motorbike stay on the road or the shoulder.
My statement was that, in my view, "motors are for the road". The
reason I said "99%" instead of 100% is that there are a few very real
SAR, geological or biological survey, archaeological or
paleontological exploration, law-enforcement, and probably a few other
socially valuable uses for off-road vehicles.
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net 1-301-775-0471
Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll.
rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu 1-336-713-5077
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