Cruise Ship Runs Aground in Atlantic ICW - Obstruction Blo..

On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:

>Wayne.B wrote:
>> Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.
>>
>> A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a
>> previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge
>> and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to
>> prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage
>> stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.
>>
>> The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all
>> commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft
>> until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape
>> Hatteras and the Outer Banks.
>>
>> http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=136626&ran=68933
>>
>>
>
>
>Did they run into the transmission you dropped?

I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this
obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm
could have moved something around.
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Wayne.B wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>> Wayne.B wrote:
>>> Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.
>>>
>>> A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a
>>> previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge
>>> and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to
>>> prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage
>>> stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.
>>>
>>> The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all
>>> commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft
>>> until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape
>>> Hatteras and the Outer Banks.
>>>
>>> http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=136626&ran=68933
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did they run into the transmission you dropped?
>
> I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this
> obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm
> could have moved something around.


Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship?
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:24:12 -0500, HK <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:

>> I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this
>> obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm
>> could have moved something around.
>
>
>Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship?

According to the news article they located the obstruction but have to
send down divers to identify it. It would have to be a wreck or a
rock in my opinion. There are a fair number of tree stumps and logs
in that area but I don't think that would be enough to gash the hull.
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On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:37:14 -0500, Wayne.B
<waynebatrecdotboats.TakeThisOut@hothail.com> wrote:

>Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.
>
>A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a
>previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge
>and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to
>prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage
>stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.
>
>The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all
>commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft
>until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape
>Hatteras and the Outer Banks.
>
>http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=136626&ran=68933

Yipe - that sucks.

In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money
in it for dredging the waterway?
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:10:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
<email.RemoveThis@swsports.org> wrote:

>In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money
>in it for dredging the waterway?

That would be nice but I haven't heard anything about it. The "thing"
that bit the cruise ship does not appear to have been shoaling
related. My guess is an old wreck that got pushed out of position
somehow, or possibly the cruise ship got wide of the channel in the
dark and moved something around when they hit it.
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"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats DeleteThis @hothail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:10:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
> <email DeleteThis @swsports.org> wrote:
>
>>In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money
>>in it for dredging the waterway?
>
> That would be nice but I haven't heard anything about it. The "thing"
> that bit the cruise ship does not appear to have been shoaling
> related. My guess is an old wreck that got pushed out of position
> somehow, or possibly the cruise ship got wide of the channel in the
> dark and moved something around when they hit it.

Poop happens. We had a cargo ship hit the 2nd tower on the San Francisco
Bay bridge yesterday and it spilled 150K+ gallons of fuel oil. The quick
response teams did not respond and some harbors are closed by oil booms and
the coast is getting covered in oil.
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"HK" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>
> Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship?


Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh wave,
generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite boulder
some distance at Peggys Cove.
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"Wayne.B" <waynebatrecdotboats.DeleteThis@hothail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 03:10:50 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
> <email.DeleteThis@swsports.org> wrote:
>
>>In this recently passed "water projects" bill, did they have any money
>>in it for dredging the waterway?
>
> That would be nice but I haven't heard anything about it. The "thing"
> that bit the cruise ship does not appear to have been shoaling
> related. My guess is an old wreck that got pushed out of position
> somehow, or possibly the cruise ship got wide of the channel in the
> dark and moved something around when they hit it.


The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water
and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle
of the ICW.

Eisboch
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:59:20 -0500, "Eisboch" <nothere.RemoveThis@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water
>and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle
>of the ICW.

Yes, but that was after the initial damage which went unnoticed until
they started taking on water.
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Wayne.B wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>> Wayne.B wrote:
>>> Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.
>>>
>>> A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a
>>> previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge
>>> and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to
>>> prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage
>>> stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.
>>>
>>> The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all
>>> commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft
>>> until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape
>>> Hatteras and the Outer Banks.
>>>
>>> http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=136626&ran=68933
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Did they run into the transmission you dropped?
>
> I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this
> obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm
> could have moved something around.

The winter storms in Lake Michigan and Lake Superior move some monster
boulders very long distances, but I would be surprised if last weeks
storm could have moved a large boulder in the ICW. You don't have
enough fetch to really generate really powerful waves in the ICW.

It will be interesting to see what they turn up. My guess is someone
unloaded a derelict boat.
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:10:40 -0500, Wayne.B
<waynebatrecdotboats DeleteThis @hothail.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:59:20 -0500, "Eisboch" <nothere DeleteThis @nowhere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water
>>and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle
>>of the ICW.
>
>Yes, but that was after the initial damage which went unnoticed until
>they started taking on water.

One of the more acceptable opinions about the Edmond Fitzgerald is
that the hatches were leaking and it wasn't noticed until the ship
started to list.

Seems to be a common theme in these types of accidents.
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On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:30:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
<rpsmithersIII.RemoveThis@example.net> wrote:

>Wayne.B wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Wayne.B wrote:
>>>> Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.
>>>>
>>>> A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a
>>>> previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge
>>>> and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to
>>>> prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage
>>>> stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.
>>>>
>>>> The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all
>>>> commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft
>>>> until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape
>>>> Hatteras and the Outer Banks.
>>>>
>>>> http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=136626&ran=68933
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did they run into the transmission you dropped?
>>
>> I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this
>> obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm
>> could have moved something around.
>
>The winter storms in Lake Michigan and Lake Superior move some monster
>boulders very long distances, but I would be surprised if last weeks
>storm could have moved a large boulder in the ICW. You don't have
>enough fetch to really generate really powerful waves in the ICW.
>
>It will be interesting to see what they turn up. My guess is someone
>unloaded a derelict boat.

Three or four years ago, an oiler heading up to the Providence, RI
fuel depot in Narragansett Bay hit something right along the starbord
side of the navigation channel about 100 yards ESE to the T-wharf at
Prudence Island. A slightly below average low tide was at ebb.

Lo and behold, a wreck nobody knew was there. 130 foot long, partially
wooden hull and partial steel super structure.

Researchers can't seem to identify the ship other than to say that it
shows aspects of being a coal collier and is at least 80 years old -
possibly older.

So you never know. :>)
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Don White wrote:
> "HK" <payer33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:0vWdnS4h9szvr6janZ2dnUVZ_ubinZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship?
>
>
> Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh wave,
> generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite boulder
> some distance at Peggys Cove.
>
>


That would be some wave...
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