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Rich1

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 12:24 am
Post subject: Construction methods conversion from plans????
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What is the group's wisdom on which building methods can be practically
converted to what other methods ( given the requisite skill, knowledge,
experience,....legal disclaimer here.....)? For instance can a carvel plank
boat's plans be converted to strip planking? Clinker (lapstrake) to glued
lapstrake, etc.? Some of us are in the position of not being able to leave
a boat in the water , so a construction method which permits the boat to be
left on a trailer is the only good option. Some nice shapes aren't drawn
for these methods so being able to convert the plans to those more "user
friendly " ( the finished boat , not necessarily the method. I know some
can't abide the Epoxy Gloppies.) types of construction would allow access to
more hull plans.

Any rule for this decision about which are adaptable?

We built a plywood on frame boat as a stitch and glue because we had all the
"stuff" available from a previous project, but that wasn't much of a
conversion.

Rich

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William R. Watt

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:53 am
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there's more to it than a straight conversion as a lot of boats do not do well
in a trailer lifestyle

"Rich" (mr.barnes@earthlink.net) writes:
 > What is the group's wisdom on which building methods can be practically
 > converted to what other methods ( given the requisite skill, knowledge,
 > experience,....legal disclaimer here.....)? For instance can a carvel plank
 > boat's plans be converted to strip planking? Clinker (lapstrake) to glued
 > lapstrake, etc.? Some of us are in the position of not being able to leave
 > a boat in the water , so a construction method which permits the boat to be
 > left on a trailer is the only good option. Some nice shapes aren't drawn
 > for these methods so being able to convert the plans to those more "user
 > friendly " ( the finished boat , not necessarily the method. I know some
 > can't abide the Epoxy Gloppies.) types of construction would allow access to
 > more hull plans.
 >
 > Any rule for this decision about which are adaptable?
 >
 > We built a plywood on frame boat as a stitch and glue because we had all the
 > "stuff" available from a previous project, but that wasn't much of a
 > conversion.
 >
 > Rich
 >
 >


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P.C.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 3:08 am
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Hi

"Rich" <mr.barnes.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> skrev i en meddelelse
news:Ic19c.1631$yN6.206@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
 > What is the group's wisdom on which building methods can be practically
 > converted to what other methods ( given the requisite skill, knowledge,
 > experience,....legal disclaimer here.....)? For instance can a carvel
plank
 > boat's plans be converted to strip planking? Clinker (lapstrake) to glued
 > lapstrake, etc.? Some of us are in the position of not being able to
leave
 > a boat in the water , so a construction method which permits the boat to
be
 > left on a trailer is the only good option. Some nice shapes aren't drawn
 > for these methods so being able to convert the plans to those more "user
 > friendly " ( the finished boat , not necessarily the method. I know some
 > can't abide the Epoxy Gloppies.) types of construction would allow access
to
 > more hull plans.
 >
 > Any rule for this decision about which are adaptable?
 >
 > We built a plywood on frame boat as a stitch and glue because we had all
the
 > "stuff" available from a previous project, but that wasn't much of a
 > conversion.
 >
 > Rich
 >

There are a lot of good methods, but each have it's own applications ; for a
Viking Longboat you build lapstrake and for an epoxy boat you use wood ,
that's just a small part of it.
The better technike and materials the better a boat, and a lot of it deal
with having an open mind ------- having that mean that your mind need to be
open to other than your own pony. Plywood is nice but so is mahogony
originaly Ply was even made to produce a material not carrying the "foults"
of wood ; those a craftman acturly use when building become an art. Still
art is possible in plastic but a boat is more than materials, it's good
plans meaning a good designer, it is the ability to cross the sea and keep
the sailors alive nomatter how stupid they sail, still there are plenty of
methods to build a boat hull some old and some not as old ------- the real
new ones also exist , when you look for them and realy share an open mind
Wink)

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