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DK

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(Msg. 46) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:28 pm
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Eisboch wrote:
> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:17CdnZ-xLvfrhS_VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Eisboch wrote:
>>> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:17CdnWO2LvcIiC_VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>>> "hk" <payer33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:kMednR6LybyVki_VnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>>>>> The reason I started doing this is, as you pointed out, over time you
>>>>>>> build up dust and the cooling becomes less effective.
>>>>>>> This laptop is over 6 years old and I used to just leave it on 24/7.
>>>>>>> I started shutting it down because I was concerned the cooling
>>>>>>> probably wasn't as efficient as when it was new. But, so far, no
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eisboch
>>>>>> How much dust ingestion are you going to get on a decently built
>>>>>> laptop?
>>>>>>
>>>>> After 6 years, quite a bit as I found. I didn't take it completely
>>>>> apart, but enough so to expose the CPU, heatsink, fans, etc.
>>>>> This laptop has 4 miniature fans. I was surprised at how much dust
>>>>> had accumulated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eisboch
>>>> So...blow the dust out every few months.
>>> I cleaned what I could get to without taking the whole computer apart.
>>> Someone here thoughtfully gave me a link to HP's procedure for doing so,
>>> I read it and chickened out. I am real good at taking things apart.
>>> The track record for putting it back together isn't as good.
>>>
>>>
>>> Eisboch
>>
>> THere's a really good video on taking apart a MacBook Pro, which I have
>> watched. But I saw a tech at the mac store do it, and it wasn't something
>> I'd like to try. Too many really small screws.
>
>
> Exactly. Plus, on this HP, there are several little "insert pin and push
> until cover releases".
> I don't trust them.
>
> Eisboch
>
>

Do you have fat, WAFA, fingers? Wink

I use a vacuum, not a blower, unless I have the case open. The same
should work well with a laptop. Our laptops aren't on 24/7 so they
don't have the chance to accumulate that kind of dust.

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(Msg. 47) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:32 pm
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:12:18 -0500, Vic Smith
> <thismailautodeleted.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Besides, it pisses me off to buy canned air. It just does
>
> Buy an air compresor.

Air compressors "make" and store water. That's why they have drains on
their tank(s). They also can produce a lot of air so a regulator would
be required to keep that high pressure from damaging your computer.

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(Msg. 48) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:02 pm
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C'mon... it's typical of harry when he's backed into a corner. Ignore the
question, and try to insult/incite... He's certainly predictable, that's fer
sure.

--Mike

"D.Duck" <Don DeleteThis @ld.duck> wrote in message
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> "hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
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>> D.Duck wrote:
>>> "hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>> news:17CdnWa2LvcuiS_VnZ2dnUVZ_j-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> D.Duck wrote:
>>>>> "hk" <payer33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:kMednR6LybyVki_VnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>> Eisboch wrote:
>>>>>>> "D.Duck" <Don DeleteThis @ld.duck> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:ztudncTH1YTQKCzVnZ2dnUVZ_rLinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>> "Eisboch" <rce DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:v6ednZ0Bcdnb2SzVnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>>>>>>> Thought I might offer this, even though I don't understand it, in
>>>>>>>>> case anyone else has a similar issue.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you use hibernate mode the machine completely powers itself time
>>>>>>>> after a user selected period of time. This minimizes dust
>>>>>>>> ingestion. The recovery time on our laptop is less than 15 seconds
>>>>>>>> after touching the power button.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I experimented with both "sleep" and "hibernate" modes. Frankly,
>>>>>>> as far as power usage is concerned, I don't see any difference.
>>>>>>> In both, the display, hard drive and cooling fans stop operating.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The reason I started doing this is, as you pointed out, over time
>>>>>>> you build up dust and the cooling becomes less effective.
>>>>>>> This laptop is over 6 years old and I used to just leave it on 24/7.
>>>>>>> I started shutting it down because I was concerned the cooling
>>>>>>> probably wasn't as efficient as when it was new. But, so far, no
>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eisboch
>>>>>> How much dust ingestion are you going to get on a decently built
>>>>>> laptop?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now, a desktop, especially a homebrew desktop, is different. I just
>>>>>> open up the panels on mine and use canned air to blow the dust out
>>>>>> every couple of months.
>>>>> Every laptop I've looked at have a grill over the area where the fan
>>>>> in sucking in fresh air. What is decently built that is different
>>>>> from that design?
>>>> I didn't say "no" dust would get in, I implied it would be minimal. I
>>>> was at the Apple store a few weeks ago and watched a tech replace a fan
>>>> in a Macbook pro. He said the laptop was about a year old. When he
>>>> removed all the screws and popped it open, I was amazed by how clean it
>>>> was inside. No visible dust, not even on the fan.
>>>
>>> Do you have no idea of the number of ON hours or the environment the
>>> machine was operating in? I doubt if Apple uses any *magic* technique
>>> to keep their laptops from ingesting dust.
>>
>> Quack, quack, quack
>
> Informative answer.
>
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:53 pm
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"DK" <intrceptor.DeleteThis@321gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:12:18 -0500, Vic Smith
>> <thismailautodeleted.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Besides, it pisses me off to buy canned air. It just does
>>
>> Buy an air compresor.
>
> Air compressors "make" and store water. That's why they have drains on
> their tank(s). They also can produce a lot of air so a regulator would be
> required to keep that high pressure from damaging your computer.

My compressor has both a regulator and a water trap. I just normally use
the shop vac. Same thing I have used for 45 years to clean out computers.
In the old days of mainframes we had to vacuum out the paper dust, and
normally every couple of months used the blow function to clean the card
cages in the tape drives.
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