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Since: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:04 am
Post subject: Carbon Fiber Archived from groups: rec>boats>building (more info?)
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I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot of
dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in carbon
fiber.
anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?
anyone have a better idea?
Thanks,
Marc >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Jan 31, 2006 Posts: 47
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Carbon Fiber [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Marc,
Please do some serious research and consider your
alternatives. Corbon fiber is very light, very strong and
not very abrasion resistant. Kevlar is more abrasion
resistant (as I Recall).
Matt Colie
Marc Reeves wrote:
> I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot of
> dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in carbon
> fiber.
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> anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?
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> anyone have a better idea?
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> Thanks,
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> Marc
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> >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Mar 09, 2005 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:20 pm
Post subject: Re: Carbon Fiber [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Matt Colie wrote:
> Marc,
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> Please do some serious research and consider your
> alternatives. Corbon fiber is very light, very strong and
> not very abrasion resistant. Kevlar is more abrasion
> resistant (as I Recall).
>
> Matt Colie
Kevlar for the hull, carbon fiber for the mast, on a sailboat. >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Jan 07, 2005 Posts: 136
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 11:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Carbon Fiber [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Marc Reeves wrote:
> I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face
> alot of dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom
> in carbon fiber.
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> anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?
>
> anyone have a better idea?
Think you will find carbon is on allocation and it ain't cheap.
Try double bias glass and epoxy.
Lew >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 12
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:08 am
Post subject: Re: Carbon Fiber [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Marc Reeves wrote:
> I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face alot of
> dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom in carbon
> fiber.
>
> anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?
>
> anyone have a better idea?
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> Thanks,
>
> Marc
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Yeah, use Kevlar instead of carbon. >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 5
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 2:08 am
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Since: Jan 29, 2006 Posts: 26
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 4:05 am
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Did you look at plywood with a glass-epoxy skin... I'm willing to bet
that in comparable panel strengths as compared to an all fiberglass
hull, this will be lighter and cheaper... LOWES has exterior Luan ply,
5.1mm, for roughly ten bucks a sheet... I just finished building a 7.5
foot dink this way and you can pick it up with one hand...
denny >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Feb 20, 2006 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:28 am
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With some wood reeinforcememnt
"Lew Hodgett" <lewhodgett.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:J5DYf.574$Fy2.324@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net...
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> Marc Reeves wrote:
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> > I'm building a duck hunting layout boat, and it will probably face
> > alot of dragging across dirt/gravel. I'm thinking of doing the bottom
> > in carbon fiber.
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> > anyone have a cheap source for carbon fiber?
> >
> > anyone have a better idea?
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> Think you will find carbon is on allocation and it ain't cheap.
>
> Try double bias glass and epoxy.
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> Lew >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Aug 10, 2005 Posts: 19
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:30 am
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A thick graphite/epoxy mix, spread liberally on the bottom, is really good.
Put it on as a finish coat, NOT to wet/fill the glass.
Even better, the dories stored on cobble beaches of Grand Manaan Island are
sheathed with UHMW plastic panels. They just slide them down over the
rocks to launch, winch out. The problem is that this stuff doesn't adhere
to anything, and must be mechanically fastened.
Sal's Dad
"Marc Reeves" <Marcbme DeleteThis @bresnan.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks guys,
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> I've decided against the carbon fiber and to go, instead, with the
> glass/epoxy/graphite option instead
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Since: Apr 12, 2006 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:35 pm
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A double layer of fiberglass and the volume of epoxy needed to
completely "wet" the fiber is VERY heavy
the luan & epoxy+ graphite would be good and light and wear well
or you could go with (from inside to outside bottom) carbon
fiber,ultra dense foam, kevlar, graphite. very strong, VERY light
wears like armor AND INCREASES FLOATATION >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Jan 07, 2005 Posts: 136
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:55 am
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espresso kid wrote:
> A double layer of fiberglass and the volume of epoxy needed to
> completely "wet" the fiber is VERY heavy.
<snip>
What glass are you describing?
Lew >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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Since: Feb 22, 2005 Posts: 99
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:08 pm
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Since: Apr 12, 2006 Posts: 4
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2006 7:16 am
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no i ment heavy as in weight. there is not a fiberglass boat that is
light when compared to other composites or even okume(sp) plywood once
the fiberglass has been built up comparable strenght >> Stay informed about: Carbon Fiber |
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