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Mike16

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:17 pm
Post subject: Bow Eye Repair
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I have a 73 Starcraft fiberglass boat on which the bow eye was beginning to
pull through. Upon further inspection I found that the wood on the inside of
the hull had disintegrated. I removed the fiberglass covering where the wood
used to be and removed all the wood particles. There is no more wood in the
area.

I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood approximately the same
dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before attaching the
bow eye.

Do I need to put fiberglass resin, epoxy or sealant between the new wood and
the inside of the hull? Should I fiberglass over the new wood before
bolting the eye on or after? Any other suggestions?

Thanks
Mike

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Lawrence James

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:29 pm
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Epoxy is always better than fiberglass resin. It is a lot less water
permeable but costs more. Epoxy the wood to the hull. Glass over the wood
with cloth and more epoxy. Drill the holes a little big. Coat the inside
of the holes with more epoxy. Use a good bedding compound when you put the
hardware back on, not silicon.

"Mike" <keturoskey.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote in message
news:vom22s5gbokm5e@corp.supernews.com...
 > I have a 73 Starcraft fiberglass boat on which the bow eye was beginning
to
 > pull through. Upon further inspection I found that the wood on the inside
of
 > the hull had disintegrated. I removed the fiberglass covering where the
wood
 > used to be and removed all the wood particles. There is no more wood in
the
 > area.
 >
 > I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood approximately the
same
 > dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before attaching the
 > bow eye.
 >
 > Do I need to put fiberglass resin, epoxy or sealant between the new wood
and
 > the inside of the hull? Should I fiberglass over the new wood before
 > bolting the eye on or after? Any other suggestions?
 >
 > Thanks
 > Mike
 >
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Mike16

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:29 pm
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Is the bedding compound something I can just ask for or is it a generic
term?

Mike


"Lawrence James" <jamesgangnc.DeleteThis@earthlink.removeme.net> wrote in message
news:UOEib.1027$kx.730@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
 > Epoxy is always better than fiberglass resin. It is a lot less water
 > permeable but costs more. Epoxy the wood to the hull. Glass over the
wood
 > with cloth and more epoxy. Drill the holes a little big. Coat the inside
 > of the holes with more epoxy. Use a good bedding compound when you put
the
 > hardware back on, not silicon.
 >
 > "Mike" <keturoskey.DeleteThis@charter.net> wrote in message
 > news:vom22s5gbokm5e@corp.supernews.com...
  > > I have a 73 Starcraft fiberglass boat on which the bow eye was beginning
 > to
  > > pull through. Upon further inspection I found that the wood on the
inside
 > of
  > > the hull had disintegrated. I removed the fiberglass covering where the
 > wood
  > > used to be and removed all the wood particles. There is no more wood in
 > the
  > > area.
  > >
  > > I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood approximately the
 > same
  > > dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before attaching
the
  > > bow eye.
  > >
  > > Do I need to put fiberglass resin, epoxy or sealant between the new wood
 > and
  > > the inside of the hull? Should I fiberglass over the new wood before
  > > bolting the eye on or after? Any other suggestions?
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > > Mike
  > >
  > >
 >
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Lawrence James

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:30 am
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It's a generic term. You can ask for some at the boat store.

"Mike" <keturoskey RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote in message
news:vom8d2klnfch8b@corp.supernews.com...
 > Is the bedding compound something I can just ask for or is it a generic
 > term?
 >
 > Mike
 >
 >
 > "Lawrence James" <jamesgangnc RemoveThis @earthlink.removeme.net> wrote in message
 > news:UOEib.1027$kx.730@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
  > > Epoxy is always better than fiberglass resin. It is a lot less water
  > > permeable but costs more. Epoxy the wood to the hull. Glass over the
 > wood
  > > with cloth and more epoxy. Drill the holes a little big. Coat the
inside
  > > of the holes with more epoxy. Use a good bedding compound when you put
 > the
  > > hardware back on, not silicon.
  > >
  > > "Mike" <keturoskey RemoveThis @charter.net> wrote in message
  > > news:vom22s5gbokm5e@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > I have a 73 Starcraft fiberglass boat on which the bow eye was
beginning
  > > to
   > > > pull through. Upon further inspection I found that the wood on the
 > inside
  > > of
   > > > the hull had disintegrated. I removed the fiberglass covering where
the
  > > wood
   > > > used to be and removed all the wood particles. There is no more wood
in
  > > the
   > > > area.
   > > >
   > > > I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood approximately
the
  > > same
   > > > dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before attaching
 > the
   > > > bow eye.
   > > >
   > > > Do I need to put fiberglass resin, epoxy or sealant between the new
wood
  > > and
   > > > the inside of the hull? Should I fiberglass over the new wood before
   > > > bolting the eye on or after? Any other suggestions?
   > > >
   > > > Thanks
   > > > Mike
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 1:46 am
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 >Subject: Bow Eye Repair
 >From: "Mike" keturoskey RemoveThis @charter.net

 >I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood approximately the same
 >dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before attaching the
 >bow eye.

Why not use plate aluminum and never worry about it again?

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do violence on their behalf......George Orwell.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:24 am
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Last two questions...I think. Would I put the bedding compound just around
where the holes will be on the wood then epoxy it into place on the hull? Is
a treated 2x4 suitable for this repair or do I need a different kind of
wood?

Thanks again.


"Lawrence James" <jamesgangnc.RemoveThis@earthlink.removeme.net> wrote in message
news:psHib.1307$kx.1234@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
 > It's a generic term. You can ask for some at the boat store.
 >
 > "Mike" <keturoskey.RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in message
 > news:vom8d2klnfch8b@corp.supernews.com...
  > > Is the bedding compound something I can just ask for or is it a generic
  > > term?
  > >
  > > Mike
  > >
  > >
  > > "Lawrence James" <jamesgangnc.RemoveThis@earthlink.removeme.net> wrote in message
  > > news:UOEib.1027$kx.730@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
   > > > Epoxy is always better than fiberglass resin. It is a lot less water
   > > > permeable but costs more. Epoxy the wood to the hull. Glass over the
  > > wood
   > > > with cloth and more epoxy. Drill the holes a little big. Coat the
 > inside
   > > > of the holes with more epoxy. Use a good bedding compound when you
put
  > > the
   > > > hardware back on, not silicon.
   > > >
   > > > "Mike" <keturoskey.RemoveThis@charter.net> wrote in message
   > > > news:vom22s5gbokm5e@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > > I have a 73 Starcraft fiberglass boat on which the bow eye was
 > beginning
   > > > to
   > > > > pull through. Upon further inspection I found that the wood on the
  > > inside
   > > > of
   > > > > the hull had disintegrated. I removed the fiberglass covering where
 > the
   > > > wood
   > > > > used to be and removed all the wood particles. There is no more wood
 > in
   > > > the
   > > > > area.
   > > > >
   > > > > I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood approximately
 > the
   > > > same
   > > > > dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before
attaching
  > > the
   > > > > bow eye.
   > > > >
   > > > > Do I need to put fiberglass resin, epoxy or sealant between the new
 > wood
   > > > and
   > > > > the inside of the hull? Should I fiberglass over the new wood
before
   > > > > bolting the eye on or after? Any other suggestions?
   > > > >
   > > > > Thanks
   > > > > Mike
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 8:26 am
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I figured, for no reason in particular, that wood may absorb shock and
stress better, where a piece of metal may pass that to the hull.

Mike


"Mark Pilcher" <markypiep RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote in message
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  > >Subject: Bow Eye Repair
  > >From: "Mike" keturoskey RemoveThis @charter.net
 >
  > >I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood approximately the
same
  > >dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before attaching the
  > >bow eye.
 >
 > Why not use plate aluminum and never worry about it again?
 >
 > People sleep peacefully in their beds at night because rough men stand
ready to
 > do violence on their behalf......George Orwell.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 12:53 am
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The bedding compound goes on the outside where the hardware mounts. The bow
eye probably has a single plate with two holes. The bedding compound goes
between that plate and the outside of the hull. I use pressure treated wood
for this sort of thing myself but there are varying opinions on that.

The aluminum backing plate is also a reasonable solution but a little more
effort to fabricate.

"Mike" <keturoskey DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
news:vonqupm7bjaq2d@corp.supernews.com...
 > Last two questions...I think. Would I put the bedding compound just around
 > where the holes will be on the wood then epoxy it into place on the hull?
Is
 > a treated 2x4 suitable for this repair or do I need a different kind of
 > wood?
 >
 > Thanks again.
 >
 >
 > "Lawrence James" <jamesgangnc DeleteThis @earthlink.removeme.net> wrote in message
 > news:psHib.1307$kx.1234@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
  > > It's a generic term. You can ask for some at the boat store.
  > >
  > > "Mike" <keturoskey DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
  > > news:vom8d2klnfch8b@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > Is the bedding compound something I can just ask for or is it a
generic
   > > > term?
   > > >
   > > > Mike
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > "Lawrence James" <jamesgangnc DeleteThis @earthlink.removeme.net> wrote in message
   > > > news:UOEib.1027$kx.730@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
   > > > > Epoxy is always better than fiberglass resin. It is a lot less
water
   > > > > permeable but costs more. Epoxy the wood to the hull. Glass over
the
   > > > wood
   > > > > with cloth and more epoxy. Drill the holes a little big. Coat the
  > > inside
   > > > > of the holes with more epoxy. Use a good bedding compound when you
 > put
   > > > the
   > > > > hardware back on, not silicon.
   > > > >
   > > > > "Mike" <keturoskey DeleteThis @charter.net> wrote in message
   > > > > news:vom22s5gbokm5e@corp.supernews.com...
   > > > > > I have a 73 Starcraft fiberglass boat on which the bow eye was
  > > beginning
   > > > > to
   > > > > > pull through. Upon further inspection I found that the wood on the
   > > > inside
   > > > > of
   > > > > > the hull had disintegrated. I removed the fiberglass covering
where
  > > the
   > > > > wood
   > > > > > used to be and removed all the wood particles. There is no more
wood
  > > in
   > > > > the
   > > > > > area.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > I intended to repair it by making a new piece of wood
approximately
  > > the
   > > > > same
   > > > > > dimensions as the old one then fiberglassing over it before
 > attaching
   > > > the
   > > > > > bow eye.
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Do I need to put fiberglass resin, epoxy or sealant between the
new
  > > wood
   > > > > and
   > > > > > the inside of the hull? Should I fiberglass over the new wood
 > before
   > > > > > bolting the eye on or after? Any other suggestions?
   > > > > >
   > > > > > Thanks
   > > > > > Mike
   > > > > >
   > > > > >
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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