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rom

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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"Now let's examine the studies findings on vessels that sank while underway.
The single most critical reason boats are flooded on open water has to do
with transom height. Thirteen of the 15 boats in this category were
outboard-powered and the engine cutouts were often only inches above the
water. The motor wells in some cases were too low, too shallow, and too slow
to drain. The lack of freeboard aft allowed seas to board, "pooping" the
boat as water came over the stern. Slow draining wells caused the boat to
sit lower on her lines due to the weight of the water, further compounding
the problem of low transom height. Another contributing factor is typically
weight distribution. The addition of trolling motors, large coolers, and
bait wells, among other things, decrease buoyancy aft and trim the vessel
down by the stern, in turn decreasing freeboard aft."

Excerpted from "Why do boats sink" by Ocean Marine Services Marine
Surveyors.

http://www.oceanmarineservices.com/why_do_boats_sink.htm

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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"rom" <rom RemoveThis @nospam.net> wrote in message news:ob7wi.4699$%t4.692@trnddc03...
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> "Now let's examine ........


Can you spell "obsessed"?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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On Aug 13, 8:03 pm, "rom" <r....TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote:
> "Now let's examine the studies findings on vessels that sank while underway.
> The single most critical reason boats are flooded on open water has to do
> with transom height. Thirteen of the 15 boats in this category were
> outboard-powered and the engine cutouts were often only inches above the
> water. The motor wells in some cases were too low, too shallow, and too slow
> to drain. The lack of freeboard aft allowed seas to board, "pooping" the
> boat as water came over the stern. Slow draining wells caused the boat to
> sit lower on her lines due to the weight of the water, further compounding
> the problem of low transom height. Another contributing factor is typically
> weight distribution. The addition of trolling motors, large coolers, and
> bait wells, among other things, decrease buoyancy aft and trim the vessel
> down by the stern, in turn decreasing freeboard aft."
>
> Excerpted from "Why do boats sink" by Ocean Marine Services Marine
> Surveyors.
>
> http://www.oceanmarineservices.com/why_do_boats_sink.htm

Why not simply say: "Because they can..."
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Reginald P. Smithers III

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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rom wrote:
> "Now let's examine the studies findings on vessels that sank while underway.
> The single most critical reason boats are flooded on open water has to do
> with transom height. Thirteen of the 15 boats in this category were
> outboard-powered and the engine cutouts were often only inches above the
> water. The motor wells in some cases were too low, too shallow, and too slow
> to drain. The lack of freeboard aft allowed seas to board, "pooping" the
> boat as water came over the stern. Slow draining wells caused the boat to
> sit lower on her lines due to the weight of the water, further compounding
> the problem of low transom height. Another contributing factor is typically
> weight distribution. The addition of trolling motors, large coolers, and
> bait wells, among other things, decrease buoyancy aft and trim the vessel
> down by the stern, in turn decreasing freeboard aft."
>
> Excerpted from "Why do boats sink" by Ocean Marine Services Marine
> Surveyors.
>
> http://www.oceanmarineservices.com/why_do_boats_sink.htm
>
>

Boat/US included that article in their Seaworthy Magazine: "Why Boats
Sink (And How to Keep Them Afloat"
http://www.boatus.com/seaworthy/sinking/

This is a brochure they mail to all those they insure, as a way to
decrease claims.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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JimH wrote:
> "rom" <rom DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote in message news:ob7wi.4699$%t4.692@trnddc03...
>> "Now let's examine ........
>
>
> Can you spell "obsessed"?
>
>


He's just part of the group of a**holes who try and try and try to get a
rise out of me. I doubt they have much success in the rest of their
lives, either. :>}
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JR North

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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Or even, :because they should..."
JR

Tim wrote:


>
>
> Why not simply say: "Because they can..."
>


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Reginald P. Smithers III

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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JimH wrote:
> "rom" <rom DeleteThis @nospam.net> wrote in message news:ob7wi.4699$%t4.692@trnddc03...
>> "Now let's examine ........
>
>
> Can you spell "obsessed"?
>
>
This is a boating group, doesn't it make sense to discuss real boating
issues?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:22:44 -0400, HK <psyrt33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:

>He's just part of the group of a**holes who try and try and try to get a
>rise out of me. I doubt they have much success in the rest of their
>lives, either. :>}

With all due respect Harry, you do seem a bit sensitive about it. I
was reassured however when you said it can't happen to you.

NOYBY, Shortwave and I have all been hung up on crab pots or lobster
pots at one time or another, so it's good to know that someone has
figured out how to avoid them.
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Reginald P. Smithers III

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 1:03 am
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Wayne.B wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:22:44 -0400, HK <psyrt33859.TakeThisOut@mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>> He's just part of the group of a**holes who try and try and try to get a
>> rise out of me. I doubt they have much success in the rest of their
>> lives, either. :>}
>
> With all due respect Harry, you do seem a bit sensitive about it. I
> was reassured however when you said it can't happen to you.
>
> NOYBY, Shortwave and I have all been hung up on crab pots or lobster
> pots at one time or another, so it's good to know that someone has
> figured out how to avoid them.

It is very easy to avoid them, just don't use the boat.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:47 am
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Wayne.B wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:22:44 -0400, HK <psyrt33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>
>> He's just part of the group of a**holes who try and try and try to get a
>> rise out of me. I doubt they have much success in the rest of their
>> lives, either. :>}
>
> With all due respect Harry, you do seem a bit sensitive about it. I
> was reassured however when you said it can't happen to you.
>
> NOYBY, Shortwave and I have all been hung up on crab pots or lobster
> pots at one time or another, so it's good to know that someone has
> figured out how to avoid them.


I've been hung up on one, too. But I have as much small boat-salt water
experience as anyone posting here, and I don't see it as an issue with
the boat I just bought. Of the rough water issues I cannot easily
control by boatmanship or reflexes, I am more concerned about taking a
greenie over the bow and the amount of time it takes to get the possibly
huge volume of water out of the boat. If I were concerned about the
transom on the new Parker, I'd install a splash board.

It's kinda funny to read this stuff here, especially from the dryland
boaters. The "Euro" transom on most small boats or the "full transoms"
with motor wells on most small boats aren't going to keep those boats
from swamping by waves coming over the transom. The water will pour
aboard and just keep coming, and the little bitty drain holes at the
transom aren't going to help.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:28 am
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"HK" <psyrt33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
news:GMGdneS9Gc9ynlzbnZ2dnUVZ_o_inZ2d@comcast.com...

>
> He's just part of the group of a**holes who try and try and try to get a
> rise out of me. I doubt they have much success in the rest of their lives,
> either. :>}


http://www.eisboch.com/2qun2jm.jpg

Eisboch ..... Smile
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Bill Kearney

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 8:22 am
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> It's kinda funny to read this stuff here, especially from the dryland
> boaters.

Yep, nothing better to do with their time that jerk themselves off ranting
on newsgroups.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:12 am
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:28 am
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Eisboch wrote:
> "HK" <psyrt33859 DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:GMGdneS9Gc9ynlzbnZ2dnUVZ_o_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>> He's just part of the group of a**holes who try and try and try to get a
>> rise out of me. I doubt they have much success in the rest of their lives,
>> either. :>}
>
>
> http://www.eisboch.com/2qun2jm.jpg
>
> Eisboch ..... Smile
>
>


Gosh...the possibility of getting wet while on a boat...the horror of it.
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Reginald P. Smithers III

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 10:57 am
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HK wrote:
> Eisboch wrote:
>> "HK" <psyrt33859.DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:GMGdneS9Gc9ynlzbnZ2dnUVZ_o_inZ2d@comcast.com...
>>
>>> He's just part of the group of a**holes who try and try and try to
>>> get a rise out of me. I doubt they have much success in the rest of
>>> their lives, either. :>}
>>
>>
>> http://www.eisboch.com/2qun2jm.jpg
>>
>> Eisboch ..... Smile
>>
>
>
> Gosh...the possibility of getting wet while on a boat...the horror of it.

Everyone will get wet on a boat, but if you can get a quality boat
without a large hole in the transom, one that will stay substantially
drier than one with a very low transom why would one want to?

Now if you actually went boating in the early spring and late fall, you
would appreciate the reason why most boats don't have a large hole cut
out of the transom.
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