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Since: May 29, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 7:18 pm
Post subject: Boat and trailer tow weights
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Hi,
I'm considering becoming a first-time boater. I know next-to-nothing about
boating, but have been doing some online research. I can probably only
afford something that I can trailer and launch myself; town boat launch is
about 4 miles from my house. My tow vehicle would be a 2003 Kia Sedona
mini-van. It is rated to tow up to 3500 lbs, but total Gross Weight is
about is 5959 lbs., so really I can probably tow about 3300 for the short
distance to town launch, or less if I want to put wife and kids in the van
and go farther. My question is, what size/type boats should I be looking
at? I would like a "ballpark" idea of boat/motor/trailer combined weights,
so I don't waste time looking at ones I couldn't possibly hope to tow.
Since I have small kids, I like the cuddy style more than the bowrider
(porta-potty and nap spot) but I'm guessing they are heavier. Anyone who
could give me some clues, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 7:18 pm
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I have a 17' Arima Sea Ranger with a 90 hp Johnson 2 stroke outboard on a
King galvanized trailer. Together they weigh in at just under 3000 lbs. I
threw in the 2 stroke part because they typically weigh a little less than a
4 stroke. Here's a link to the specs for an Arima Sea Ranger:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.arimaboats.com/boat6.htm." target="_blank">http://www.arimaboats.com/boat6.htm.</a>
Welcome to boating. It's something your kids will remember all their lives.
Snafu
"Tran" <tranthunnospam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm considering becoming a first-time boater. I know next-to-nothing
about
> boating, but have been doing some online research. I can probably only
> afford something that I can trailer and launch myself; town boat launch is
> about 4 miles from my house. My tow vehicle would be a 2003 Kia Sedona
> mini-van. It is rated to tow up to 3500 lbs, but total Gross Weight is
> about is 5959 lbs., so really I can probably tow about 3300 for the short
> distance to town launch, or less if I want to put wife and kids in the van
> and go farther. My question is, what size/type boats should I be looking
> at? I would like a "ballpark" idea of boat/motor/trailer combined
weights,
> so I don't waste time looking at ones I couldn't possibly hope to tow.
> Since I have small kids, I like the cuddy style more than the bowrider
> (porta-potty and nap spot) but I'm guessing they are heavier. Anyone who
> could give me some clues, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
>
> Tom<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 8:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Boat and trailer tow weights [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Thanks for the info. I'm looking at used boats, so it is hard to find
specs. It seems prudent to go to a scale with any potential purchase, but
it does help to knwo what I should be looking at. So is this "typical" for
a 17' boat? Or is there a wide range? Might I find a 20', with trailer, at
3000 lbs or is this unrealistic? Thanks again!
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 8:04 pm
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I'm not sure if 3000 lbs is typical for a 17 footer. I'll have to let
others answer that.
BTW, the weight I gave included a full tank of gas (~25 gallons) and fishing
gear.
"Tran" <tranthunnospam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the info. I'm looking at used boats, so it is hard to find
> specs. It seems prudent to go to a scale with any potential purchase, but
> it does help to knwo what I should be looking at. So is this "typical"
for
> a 17' boat? Or is there a wide range? Might I find a 20', with trailer,
at
> 3000 lbs or is this unrealistic? Thanks again!
>
> Tom<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Boat and trailer tow weights |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 12:19 am
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Remember Gross Weight also includes what's extra inside the vehicle. So if
you, the wife, the kids, the food totals 800lbs then what you put on the
back can only total 2700lbs. Also consider how may horses and engine size in
your van.
"Tran" <tranthunnospam DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm considering becoming a first-time boater. I know next-to-nothing
about
> boating, but have been doing some online research. I can probably only
> afford something that I can trailer and launch myself; town boat launch is
> about 4 miles from my house. My tow vehicle would be a 2003 Kia Sedona
> mini-van. It is rated to tow up to 3500 lbs, but total Gross Weight is
> about is 5959 lbs., so really I can probably tow about 3300 for the short
> distance to town launch, or less if I want to put wife and kids in the van
> and go farther. My question is, what size/type boats should I be looking
> at? I would like a "ballpark" idea of boat/motor/trailer combined
weights,
> so I don't waste time looking at ones I couldn't possibly hope to tow.
> Since I have small kids, I like the cuddy style more than the bowrider
> (porta-potty and nap spot) but I'm guessing they are heavier. Anyone who
> could give me some clues, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
>
> Tom<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Boat and trailer tow weights |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 1:29 am
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"Tran" wrote ...
> Thanks for the info. I'm looking at used boats, so it is hard to find
> specs. It seems prudent to go to a scale with any potential purchase, but
> it does help to knwo what I should be looking at. So is this "typical" for
> a 17' boat? Or is there a wide range? Might I find a 20', with trailer, at
> 3000 lbs or is this unrealistic? Thanks again!
My 20' aluminum 5.7L inboard jet weighs 4500 lbs including aluminum trailer,
gas, food, ice, etc.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Boat and trailer tow weights |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 1:38 am
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"-rick-" <dont.DeleteThis@bother.com> wrote in message
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> "Tran" wrote ...
> > Thanks for the info. I'm looking at used boats, so it is hard to find
> > specs. It seems prudent to go to a scale with any potential purchase, but
> > it does help to knwo what I should be looking at. So is this "typical" for
> > a 17' boat? Or is there a wide range? Might I find a 20', with trailer, at
> > 3000 lbs or is this unrealistic? Thanks again!
>
> My 20' aluminum 5.7L inboard jet weighs 4500 lbs including aluminum trailer,
> gas, food, ice, etc.
I forgot to include that the manufacturers dry weght for the boat was 2500 lbs
and it holds 60 gallons of fuel.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Boat and trailer tow weights |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 1:49 am
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Also Sprach Snafu <here.RemoveThis@thewesternworld.com>:
> I'm not sure if 3000 lbs is typical for a 17 footer. I'll have to let
> others answer that.
Seems slightly on he heavy side... must be a well built boat. Always
liked the Arimas.
FYI, my pop has a 20 foot Boston Whaler Outrage. It's a center console,
so no cuddy cabin. With a 175HP 2 stroke Evinrude, and 46 gallons of gas,
on a galvanized EZ-Loader, it weighs 3450 lbs.
Dan
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I wish I was deep, instead of just macho.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 1:52 am
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Well, if you go here ... <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.boattest.com/main.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.boattest.com/main.aspx</a> ... and start
flipping through the boats tested and bring up the specs on a few, it will
give you an idea of the weight of various types, sizes. Then maybe go to a
manufacturer's site for more detail if a particular type catches your eye.
Tran" <tranthunnospam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm considering becoming a first-time boater. I know next-to-nothing
about
> boating, but have been doing some online research. I can probably only
> afford something that I can trailer and launch myself; town boat launch is
> about 4 miles from my house. My tow vehicle would be a 2003 Kia Sedona
> mini-van. It is rated to tow up to 3500 lbs, but total Gross Weight is
> about is 5959 lbs., so really I can probably tow about 3300 for the short
> distance to town launch, or less if I want to put wife and kids in the van
> and go farther. My question is, what size/type boats should I be looking
> at? I would like a "ballpark" idea of boat/motor/trailer combined
weights,
> so I don't waste time looking at ones I couldn't possibly hope to tow.
> Since I have small kids, I like the cuddy style more than the bowrider
> (porta-potty and nap spot) but I'm guessing they are heavier. Anyone who
> could give me some clues, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
>
> Tom<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Boat and trailer tow weights |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 5:45 am
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 4:13 am
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Most 17' boats w/ outboards are going to be under your weight requirement.
17' I/O w/ trailer and everything is going to be in the 3500+ range. 20' is
going to be closer to 4500 lbs.
I think a cuddy is out of the question.
I would recommend you find one that has the max rated hp engine on it.
These boats are not very fast and powerful to begin with and if the boat is
rated for a 130 you want every bit of that. A 90 is going to be a dog in
terms of ability to pull you on a slalom. I know a lot of people will say
they skied behind a 25 but that was on a plank (not a 65" slalom of today).
--
Tony
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"Tran" <tranthunnospam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm considering becoming a first-time boater. I know next-to-nothing
about
> boating, but have been doing some online research. I can probably only
> afford something that I can trailer and launch myself; town boat launch is
> about 4 miles from my house. My tow vehicle would be a 2003 Kia Sedona
> mini-van. It is rated to tow up to 3500 lbs, but total Gross Weight is
> about is 5959 lbs., so really I can probably tow about 3300 for the short
> distance to town launch, or less if I want to put wife and kids in the van
> and go farther. My question is, what size/type boats should I be looking
> at? I would like a "ballpark" idea of boat/motor/trailer combined
weights,
> so I don't waste time looking at ones I couldn't possibly hope to tow.
> Since I have small kids, I like the cuddy style more than the bowrider
> (porta-potty and nap spot) but I'm guessing they are heavier. Anyone who
> could give me some clues, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
>
> Tom<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Boat and trailer tow weights |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 4:22 am
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I'm using a chevy venture to tow a 17 1/2' sea ray with 100 hp outboard.
I'm guessing total weight to be about 2500 pounds. The venture is rated to
tow 3500 pounds but seems to be struggling a bit with this beast. It tends
toward overheating. I rarely have to tow this on the highway. I mostly go
2 blocks to the boat launch ramp. If I were towing a lot of miles, I would
need a better tow vehicle.
Any front wheel drive vehicle is not optimal for towing. You may have boat
ramp traction issues and the transmissions are delicate and expensive.
Install a transmission cooler regardless of the trailer you choose.
--
Denis Roy
D. Roy Woodcraft
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ideasinwood.com" target="_blank">www.ideasinwood.com</a>
"Tran" <tranthunnospam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I'm considering becoming a first-time boater. I know next-to-nothing
about
> boating, but have been doing some online research. I can probably only
> afford something that I can trailer and launch myself; town boat launch is
> about 4 miles from my house. My tow vehicle would be a 2003 Kia Sedona
> mini-van. It is rated to tow up to 3500 lbs, but total Gross Weight is
> about is 5959 lbs., so really I can probably tow about 3300 for the short
> distance to town launch, or less if I want to put wife and kids in the van
> and go farther. My question is, what size/type boats should I be looking
> at? I would like a "ballpark" idea of boat/motor/trailer combined
weights,
> so I don't waste time looking at ones I couldn't possibly hope to tow.
> Since I have small kids, I like the cuddy style more than the bowrider
> (porta-potty and nap spot) but I'm guessing they are heavier. Anyone who
> could give me some clues, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
>
> Tom<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Boat and trailer tow weights |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 10:04 pm
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** And don't forget about brakes on your trailer.
I'm struggling with the same issues.
1200 lb sailboat + 400 lb trailer + outboard on a Voyager rater for 2000
lbs. They recommend brakes on trailer if load exceeds 1000 lbs. ***
"Denis Roy" <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.ca> wrote in message
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> I'm using a chevy venture to tow a 17 1/2' sea ray with 100 hp outboard.
> I'm guessing total weight to be about 2500 pounds. The venture is rated
to
> tow 3500 pounds but seems to be struggling a bit with this beast. It
tends
> toward overheating. I rarely have to tow this on the highway. I mostly
go
> 2 blocks to the boat launch ramp. If I were towing a lot of miles, I
would
> need a better tow vehicle.
>
> Any front wheel drive vehicle is not optimal for towing. You may have
boat
> ramp traction issues and the transmissions are delicate and expensive.
> Install a transmission cooler regardless of the trailer you choose.
>
> --
> Denis Roy
> D. Roy Woodcraft
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ideasinwood.com</font" target="_blank">www.ideasinwood.com</font</a>>
> "Tran" <tranthunnospam.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%I2uc.2055$g%.1042@lakeread04...
> > Hi,
> > I'm considering becoming a first-time boater. I know next-to-nothing
> about
> > boating, but have been doing some online research. I can probably only
> > afford something that I can trailer and launch myself; town boat launch
is
> > about 4 miles from my house. My tow vehicle would be a 2003 Kia Sedona
> > mini-van. It is rated to tow up to 3500 lbs, but total Gross Weight is
> > about is 5959 lbs., so really I can probably tow about 3300 for the
short
> > distance to town launch, or less if I want to put wife and kids in the
van
> > and go farther. My question is, what size/type boats should I be
looking
> > at? I would like a "ballpark" idea of boat/motor/trailer combined
> weights,
> > so I don't waste time looking at ones I couldn't possibly hope to tow.
> > Since I have small kids, I like the cuddy style more than the bowrider
> > (porta-potty and nap spot) but I'm guessing they are heavier. Anyone
who
> > could give me some clues, I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks!
> >
> > Tom
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2004 5:18 am
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