Bio-diesel additive

Frank wrote:
> I just saw in the news today that my state is in the process or
> requireing all diesel fuel sold to contain 2% bio-diesel. Then push
> the limit to 5% in a set time period.
> My first thought was "Hold On". That might make sense to help with
> our foreign dependance on oil. But I don't like the idea of having
> this additive in my boats diesel fuel.
> Doesn't anyone know for certain the effects these bio-diesels may
> have on our marine diesel? Am I worring for nothing?
>
> Frank
>
From a non marine perspective, I can say that after several years of
using B-10, there is no issue with biodiesel blends. Heavy equipment,
automotive use, and truck use have left no issues to deal with.

High percentages (in excess of 50%)will cause corrosion is some steel
lines and destroy rubber hoses and gaskets.

But 5% should cause no issues.



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dazed and confuzzed wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>
>> I just saw in the news today that my state is in the process or
>> requireing all diesel fuel sold to contain 2% bio-diesel. Then push
>> the limit to 5% in a set time period.
>> My first thought was "Hold On". That might make sense to help with
>> our foreign dependance on oil. But I don't like the idea of having
>> this additive in my boats diesel fuel.
>> Doesn't anyone know for certain the effects these bio-diesels may
>> have on our marine diesel? Am I worring for nothing?
>>
>> Frank
>>
> From a non marine perspective, I can say that after several years of
> using B-10, there is no issue with biodiesel blends. Heavy equipment,
> automotive use, and truck use have left no issues to deal with.
>
> High percentages (in excess of 50%)will cause corrosion is some steel
> lines and destroy rubber hoses and gaskets.
>
> But 5% should cause no issues.
>
>
>
Everything I have read says there are a lot of reasons to use it and no
valid reasons not to.
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I have a Daewoo L136 engine which was recently certified, following
dyno trials, to run on both pure biofuel - veg oil - and bio diesel by
the Dutch Maritime and Coastguard Agency. Engines are to be fitted
into a dutch trawler.
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On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:50:27 -0600, Brian Whatcott
<betwys1 RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Bio-diesel offers improved lubricity.

No real surprise, they still use castor oil for lube, because it is
better in some ways [and not because it's cheap: it's not]

Casady
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:40:37 GMT, richardcasady.DeleteThis@earthlink.net (Richard
Casady) wrote:

>On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:50:27 -0600, Brian Whatcott
><betwys1.DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>Bio-diesel offers improved lubricity.
>
>No real surprise, they still use castor oil for lube, because it is
>better in some ways [and not because it's cheap: it's not]
>
>Casady

It won't come as a surprise to you, I don't suppose: Castrol is called
Castrol because they SOLD Castor oil. Still available - years ago, I
would fill up an MGA just for the lovely smell.
Though WWI pilots sitting behing castor lubricated rotaries, would
throw up at times - it has an emetic effect apparently.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK
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On Nov 6, 4:12 pm, Frank <frank.ge....TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just saw in the news today that my state is in the process or
> requireing all diesel fuel sold to contain 2% bio-diesel. Then push
> the limit to 5% in a set time period.
> My first thought was "Hold On". That might make sense to help with
> our foreign dependance on oil. But I don't like the idea of having
> this additive in my boats diesel fuel.
> Doesn't anyone know for certain the effects these bio-diesels may
> have on our marine diesel? Am I worring for nothing?
>
> Frank

Diesel engines are designed originally to run on veggie oil that has
been refined. Bio-diesel isn't much different.
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 20:01:33 -0800 (PST), Bill
<williamdochnahl RemoveThis @adelphia.net> wrote:

>On Nov 6, 4:12 pm, Frank <frank.ge... RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:
>> I just saw in the news today that my state is in the process or
>> requireing all diesel fuel sold to contain 2% bio-diesel. Then push
>> the limit to 5% in a set time period.
>> My first thought was "Hold On". That might make sense to help with
>> our foreign dependance on oil. But I don't like the idea of having
>> this additive in my boats diesel fuel.
>> Doesn't anyone know for certain the effects these bio-diesels may
>> have on our marine diesel? Am I worring for nothing?
>>
>> Frank
>
>Diesel engines are designed originally to run on veggie oil that has
>been refined. Bio-diesel isn't much different.


The original Rudolf Diesel design was planned to use powdered coal.

Bruce-in-Bangkok
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On Dec 11, 6:10 am, Bruce in Bangkok <b_paige_... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> The original Rudolf Diesel design was planned to use powdered coal.

But, it wouldn't work. So, he turned to peanut oil, which ran like an
otto.

Sorry for the pun, but isn't "automobile" a play on the Otto
combustion cycle?

Could nano powdered coal be made to work in a Diesel? Effectively?
Efficiently?

Terry K
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Terry K wrote:

> On Dec 11, 6:10 am, Bruce in Bangkok <b_paige_... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>The original Rudolf Diesel design was planned to use powdered coal.
>
>
> But, it wouldn't work. So, he turned to peanut oil, which ran like an
> otto.
>
> Sorry for the pun, but isn't "automobile" a play on the Otto
> combustion cycle?
>
> Could nano powdered coal be made to work in a Diesel? Effectively?
> Efficiently?
>
> Terry K

Yes, but the burn tines are still too slow for modern high speed
engines. You'd need to run about 250 RPM to make it work well.

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the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences." - Proverbs 22:3
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