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HK

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:36 am
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Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?

I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et
cetera, but catching fish you have no intention eating?

Folly.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:47 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:37 am
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"HK" <psyrt33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which most
> of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>
> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et cetera,
> but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>
> Folly.

You would like it better if they killed and kept the sharks?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:31 am
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Gene Kearns wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:36:31 -0400, HK penned the following well
> considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
>
>> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
>> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
>> most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>>
>> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
>> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
>> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et
>> cetera, but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>>
>> Folly.
>
> It really *is* a lame program. I vote with my finger and just keep
> channel surfing
>
same here. maybe we should also send a note to the program advertisers
that we ain't supportin them if they support this 'sport'.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:56 am
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On Sep 1, 8:36 am, HK <psyrt33... DeleteThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
> most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>
> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et
> cetera, but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>
> Folly.

Almost as bad as "the mad fisherman" or "girls gone fishin'" at least
the girls are cute..Most of the shows have a bunch of guys that look
like you all;)
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:56 am
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justwaitafrekinminute RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 1, 8:36 am, HK <psyrt33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
>> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
>> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
>> most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>>
>> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
>> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
>> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et
>> cetera, but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>>
>> Folly.
>
> Almost as bad as "the mad fisherman" or "girls gone fishin'" at least
> the girls are cute..Most of the shows have a bunch of guys that look
> like you all;)
>


Girls Topless & Fishing is my favorite, actually.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:55 pm
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On Sep 1, 1:37 pm, "Calif Bill" <bmckees....RemoveThis@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> "HK" <psyrt33....RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>
> news:KPGdnUr_osdZwUTbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> > Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
> > Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which most
> > of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>
> > I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
> > eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
> > or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et cetera,
> > but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>
> > Folly.
>
> You would like it better if they killed and kept the sharks?

Ohhhhh, I'm getting excited here. Watching them fishing off Beverly
Mass. Killing stripers... I am taking the family out tomorrow to the
CT River base and out the mouth if I don't get skeeret with this low
transom;) I wanna' have a day like that, actually I want to go out
tonight, but then I may not be up for tomorrow... tick, tick, tick, is
it time to go fishin' yet? "It's always time to go fishin' son, just a
case of gettin' up and doin' it;)"
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:27 pm
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 11:31:54 -0400, DownTime <DownTime.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
wrote:

>> It really *is* a lame program. I vote with my finger and just keep
>> channel surfing
>>
>same here. maybe we should also send a note to the program advertisers
>that we ain't supportin them if they support this 'sport'.

That would probably be a very effective approach. Anyone have
information on the sponsors and/or how to contact them?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:55 pm
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 08:36:31 -0400, HK <psyrt33859.DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote:

>Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
>Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
>most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?

Actually, the mortalilty rate is pretty low. There was a study a few
years ago where they caught/tagged/released lemon sharks and the
survival rate was upwards of 90%.

Having said that, these types of tournaments are much, much better
than tournaments like the big Martha's or Montauk tournaments. Just
two years ago, they took a 1,200 lb Tiger back and the Captain of that
boat knew damn well they weren't going to make it back in time, but
killed the thing anyway. That was a freakin' shame.

Personally, I'm all for in-water release, tagging and measuring. I
really like the Xtreme Billfish Tournament system - independant judges
onboard with video of the measure, release and tag with self-release
radio tags. Tags are good for two weeks and the judging agency does
all it can to verify the tags as good.

It's expensive, but the only way to run a pelagic tournament to my way
of thinking.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:55 pm
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On Sep 1, 7:36 am, HK <psyrt33... RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote:
> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
> most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>
> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et
> cetera, but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>
> Folly.

I always thought Sea Gull Skeet Shooting would be good. I don't think
there would be very many complaints from anyone.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:47 pm
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"Tim" <bschnautz.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I always thought Sea Gull Skeet Shooting would be good. I don't think
> there would be very many complaints from anyone.
>

Against the law up here.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:47 pm
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"Don White" <whited.RemoveThis@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "Tim" <bschnautz.RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> I always thought Sea Gull Skeet Shooting would be good. I don't think
>> there would be very many complaints from anyone.
>>
>
> Against the law up here.
>

Interesting comment about seagulls from a navy buddy of mine. When in the
60's on Asian cruises, you would see very few gulls and lots of junk
floating in the water. The flying rats to clean up a lot of detritus.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:31 pm
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Calif Bill wrote:
> "HK" <psyrt33859 RemoveThis @mypacks.net> wrote in message
> news:KPGdnUr_osdZwUTbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
>> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which most
>> of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>>
>> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
>> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
>> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et cetera,
>> but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>>
>> Folly.
>
> You would like it better if they killed and kept the sharks?
>
>
No, dummy. I'd like it better if they left the sharks alone, and stopped
targeting them.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:31 pm
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"HK" <psyrt33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
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> Calif Bill wrote:
>> "HK" <psyrt33859.RemoveThis@mypacks.net> wrote in message
>> news:KPGdnUr_osdZwUTbnZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
>>> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
>>> most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>>>
>>> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
>>> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
>>> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et
>>> cetera, but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>>>
>>> Folly.
>>
>> You would like it better if they killed and kept the sharks?
> No, dummy. I'd like it better if they left the sharks alone, and stopped
> targeting them.

But you enjoy targeting other fish for Catch and Release. How many of those
don't make it?
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:55 am
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Oh c'mon... Charlie Moore is a hoot! I haven't seen Girls Gone Fishin'
though...

--Mike

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> On Sep 1, 8:36 am, HK <psyrt33....DeleteThis@mypacks.net> wrote:
>> Mad Fin Shark Tournament. What the hell is the point in "sharking"?
>> Catching pelagics only to release them, under circumstances in which
>> most of them are gut-hooked and therefore probably will die?
>>
>> I do C&R fishing myself, but not for pelagics you have no intention of
>> eating, not for a long, long time. I can see catching and keeping a tuna
>> or some other "eating" fish, or a kingfish, or Spanish macks, et
>> cetera, but catching fish you have no intention eating?
>>
>> Folly.
>
> Almost as bad as "the mad fisherman" or "girls gone fishin'" at least
> the girls are cute..Most of the shows have a bunch of guys that look
> like you all;)
>
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