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user113

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:40 am
Post subject: Adhesive removal off kevlar / skincoat
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My Wenonah Voyager wants to turn into the wind all the time and I've read a
spray deck really helps. Trouble is I can't face afford a proper spray deck
with press studs etc. right now.

I am thinking of rigging up a makeshift spraydeck using duct tape but I've
also read that sunlight really bakes the duct tape adhesive onto the kevlar
/ skincoat within days.

What solvent would people recommend to take the duct tape adhesive off the
hull when I need to do that?

Would hate to damage the see through gel coat / start some chemical reaction
that turns the area just below the gunnels to mush ...

Thanks

Hank

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William R. Watt

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 10:40 am
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Heeling a boat to windward will change it's underwater shape to reduce
"weather helm" as sailors call turning into the wind. Shifting weight aft
will rise the bow so the wind will push it more to leeward.


"Hank" (b@ng.biz) writes:
 > My Wenonah Voyager wants to turn into the wind all the time and I've read a
 > spray deck really helps. Trouble is I can't face afford a proper spray deck
 > with press studs etc. right now.
 >
 > I am thinking of rigging up a makeshift spraydeck using duct tape but I've
 > also read that sunlight really bakes the duct tape adhesive onto the kevlar
 > / skincoat within days.
 >
 > What solvent would people recommend to take the duct tape adhesive off the
 > hull when I need to do that?
 >
 > Would hate to damage the see through gel coat / start some chemical reaction
 > that turns the area just below the gunnels to mush ...
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > Hank
 >
 >


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:40 am
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"William R. Watt" <ag384.DeleteThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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 >
 > Heeling a boat to windward will change it's underwater shape to reduce
 > "weather helm" as sailors call turning into the wind. Shifting weight aft
 > will rise the bow so the wind will push it more to leeward.
 >
 >


- Sound advice, and certainly works with a freestyle boat and straight
paddle where you can C-stroke on the upwind side. The Voyager is an
asymmetrical speed merchant of course, with a sliding tractor seat and
limited kneeling flexibility.

I use a ZRE carbon bent-shaft to power the Voyager sit'n switch style, which
isn't great for correction strokes (at my skill level anyway).

Also the adjustable seat will only go so far back. I haven't got one of
those fancy foot braces that move with the seat, so if I sit very far back I
don't feel very secure in the boat.

Which is why I'm thinking, if a spraydeck gives the wind less purchase from
the inside of the hull, every little helps.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:50 pm
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It can't hurt, but since sea kayaks will turn into the wind, too, it's
not the wind getting into the inside that needs to be fixed. You're on
the right track trying to change the trim, keep at it. Add some ballast
behind you if necessary. I know, you didn't pay $$$ for Kevlar just so
you could add weight to the boat later, but that's hydrodynamics for
you.

Duct tape will certainly bugger up your finish very quickly. You can
probably get it off with GooGone or acetone, but it'll still be a mess.
Steve
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Drew Dalgleish

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 11:40 pm
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On Sat, 1 Jan 2005 16:00:02 -0000, "Hank" <b.DeleteThis@ng.biz> wrote:

 >
 >"William R. Watt" <ag384.DeleteThis@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
 >news:cr6bht$pb$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
  >>
  >> Heeling a boat to windward will change it's underwater shape to reduce
  >> "weather helm" as sailors call turning into the wind. Shifting weight aft
  >> will rise the bow so the wind will push it more to leeward.
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 >- Sound advice, and certainly works with a freestyle boat and straight
 >paddle where you can C-stroke on the upwind side. The Voyager is an
 >asymmetrical speed merchant of course, with a sliding tractor seat and
 >limited kneeling flexibility.
 >
 >I use a ZRE carbon bent-shaft to power the Voyager sit'n switch style, which
 >isn't great for correction strokes (at my skill level anyway).
 >
 >Also the adjustable seat will only go so far back. I haven't got one of
 >those fancy foot braces that move with the seat, so if I sit very far back I
 >don't feel very secure in the boat.
 >
 >Which is why I'm thinking, if a spraydeck gives the wind less purchase from
 >the inside of the hull, every little helps.
 >
 >
 >
my expeience with duct tape is if you remove it at the end of the day
it won't leave any residue. The only time I've had problems is when
it's on for a long time in the sun. If you remove your spray deck
after each paddle you shouldn't have any problems. But don't get your
tape at the dollar store.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 7:34 pm
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How about using some spring loaded wood/general purpose clamps or those big
black paper clips from the office supply cabinet. The former would look
goofy but be very versital, the later might not be large enough. But either
way, no glue!

blewey


"Hank" <b DeleteThis @ng.biz> wrote in message news:cr5rgu$eqh$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
 > My Wenonah Voyager wants to turn into the wind all the time and I've read
 > a spray deck really helps. Trouble is I can't face afford a proper spray
 > deck with press studs etc. right now.
 >
 > I am thinking of rigging up a makeshift spraydeck using duct tape but I've
 > also read that sunlight really bakes the duct tape adhesive onto the
 > kevlar / skincoat within days.
 >
 > What solvent would people recommend to take the duct tape adhesive off the
 > hull when I need to do that?
 >
 > Would hate to damage the see through gel coat / start some chemical
 > reaction that turns the area just below the gunnels to mush ...
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > Hank
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2005 7:40 am
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Interesting but it could mean a lot of clamps. What I liked about the tape
scenario is that it would be easy on the eye.

But you got me thinking now. Maybe an elastic cord could go all the way
round the gunnels, like a monstrous kayak spraydeck, to keep things in
place. Only thing is, with the shouldered tumblehome, would it stay in
palce.

H

"Bob Huey" <bllewey.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > How about using some spring loaded wood/general purpose clamps or those
 > big black paper clips from the office supply cabinet. The former would
 > look goofy but be very versital, the later might not be large enough. But
 > either way, no glue!
 >
 > blewey
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